These pants look great and feel great. They are very poorly made. Holes developed around the back pockets the second time I wore them. I emailed. They sent me a replacement pair. The exact see thing happened. I had bought 4 pairs one in each color. All 4 pairs began falling apart with perhaps 6-10 wears. Stitching along the main seams has come undone on all 4 pairs and this causes holes to appear along the seams. The quality is appalling for such expensive pants.