• Abf Heaven

Abf Heaven

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Overview

Abf Heaven has a rating of 1.6 stars from 28 reviews, indicating that most customers are generally dissatisfied with their purchases. Reviewers complaining about Abf Heaven most frequently mention chat room, front page, and good people problems. Abf Heaven ranks 720th among Dating sites.

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Top Positive Review

“An excellent site for birds of a feather”

Suck B.
1/2/23

I have been on the site for 18 months (user name "suckbuddyk") and because of the quality of the site and its management I have chosen to pay annually, even though even a one-time payment is entirely optional. It is worth it to me. From what I can tell, Michael puts in long hours and always works on managing the integrity of the site and the contacts. I wasn't looking for something long-term, but I may have met her!

Top Critical Review

“What a joke”

Amy S.
12/15/23

Michael protects females (Jessica… who he also removed from the site lol) who violate his own rules and promote their OF subscriptions and breast milk for purchase. And if you make a comment against one of "Michael's Angels" he will hold a grudge. After being warned in a private message to behave, Michael antagonized me in a public chat and when I wouldn't bend to his will, I was immediately deleted. The man has a lot of bias and does not know how to manage his own temper. PS - there's some serious technical issue with the audio.

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Thumbnail of user amys3439
1 review
10 helpful votes
December 15th, 2023

Michael protects females (Jessica… who he also removed from the site lol) who violate his own rules and promote their OF subscriptions and breast milk for purchase.

And if you make a comment against one of "Michael's Angels" he will hold a grudge.

After being warned in a private message to behave, Michael antagonized me in a public chat and when I wouldn't bend to his will, I was immediately deleted.

The man has a lot of bias and does not know how to manage his own temper.

PS - there's some serious technical issue with the audio.

Tip for consumers:
Don’t waste your time going through the registration process

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Thumbnail of user katherineh902
1 review
21 helpful votes
January 12th, 2023

It is fair to say that Michael had a few calls on the site with me and wanted to meet up. When this didn't happen he kept taking my videos down but saved them for his own personal use and restricted my account so that I could no longer reply to messages that I received. I now cannot even log into my account. Sadly it seems that it is being run for the owners own personal use. It was a shame, as a lactating lady it was good to met up with one or two of the more local members.

Thumbnail of user tonyc1278
1 review
11 helpful votes
March 13th, 2023

Sites ok - Michael is a cuck to certain verified women & they can do no wrong in his eyes - very quick to ban anyone who calls out any of their lies or hypocrisy- its a decent place to learn & maybe chat with a potential partner- lost of Ghosting goes on - not really sure how many folk do meet up.
Shame about Michaels attitude & bias. Good luck if you go on there. Mind who you challenge though.

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Thumbnail of user sorad
1 review
7 helpful votes
November 21st, 2023

The site is poorly managed. I would love to meet and interact with people that are in my area, but it seems as though it might be impossible on a site like this. Competely disrespectful and there is no transparancy. If you ask questions be prepared to be ridiculed and/or banned with no reason attached.

Edit: Please keep in mind that the 5 star reviews were all (minus 1) were created in January 2023; within a day or so of one another. Those part of the clique were told to boost the poor rating, and did so without a second thought.

Tip for consumers:
It might just be better to sift around on FetLife instead. All other dedicated sites seem to have a similar problem. It's either that, or you have to dole out some cash for a mediocre time.

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Thumbnail of user tej0791
1 review
7 helpful votes
December 22nd, 2023

Every time I register my account gets deleted within 24 hours. No reason or explanation given. I have emailed them several times and have no response. Why can't they just tell me why? It's a little weird.

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Thumbnail of user joannem922
1 review
15 helpful votes
January 2nd, 2023

This was a brilliant site until about a year ago and has gotten much worse in recent months with one female allowed to practically take over chats and hold wank material video sessions with the men. This has led to men thinking this behaviour is normal and pther women are feeling the brunt of this in terms to the messages they receive.

The quality of conversation is down right cringe and i suspect she is a person who needs an awful amount of attention. Allegedly she was previously kicked off the site for taking money from the men but seems to be back louder and prouder then ever before with admins blessings and encouragement. Admin is an old man who reads peoples private messages and deletes any person or thread he doesnt like. Dare you criticise his site and your gone. This site was brilliant and has massive potential with the right admin.

There is also no privacy policy, no safety information and only recently there was a flaw on site that anyone who posted photos location was visible to anyone who knew how to look.

This week alone a number of long standing members deleted their accounts or were kicked out because they dared to say they didnt like the sleazy direction the site was heading.

My advice is this site is no different to fetlife anymore but at least there you know your information is safe and protected.

Tip for consumers:
To get the most from this site join in the chats and forums and make yourself known.

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Thumbnail of user yolandab360
1 review
3 helpful votes
April 24th, 2024

I have been very upset about the shift in mood here. My friends list has dwindled down as members have been deleted by the power mad admin or they have just left because of the depressing vibe.
It wasnt always like this...the admin actually used to be a fun guy who would hang out in the chat with us and be friendly but this all changed a couple of years ago and the only people he will banter with are this small gang of people who are responsible for said shift in mood.
So, he has sided with a gang of people who, in his eyes, can do absolutely no wrong! They get to run the chat room (and as such, no one wants to go in it anymore), they get to say and do what they want with no consequences and everyone else better shut up and not complain or share concerns because you will either be bullied off the website or, which is happening more and more frequently, the admin will simply delete your account with no way for you to stand up for yourself or argue your point.
This means everyone else has to now walk on egg shells...dont you DARE say anything remotely out of line or little Hitler will pop an erection from being able to delete someone else off of his crumbling website and laugh about it with his gang of, honestly, utter $#*!s

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A lot of the good men have left...a scary amount of the men still remaining have profiles with awful spelling, no grammar and no punctuation. You know, basic things you learn as a child. They also can't seem to hold a conversation that isnt just the word 'tits' over and over again.
A lot of the good women have been deleted....thanks to little Hitlers gang of women who hate other women and are jealous to the point of getting others deleted so they can stand out. Disgusting place at the moment :(

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Thumbnail of user roaklem
1 review
5 helpful votes
November 16th, 2023

I joined this site about 2 years ago with the intention of finding an ANR or at very least ABF partner in the UK. I managed to enjoy meeting a couple of ladies thanks to ABFH but over the past year some new members have joined and just sucked the oxygen out of the site, there's no room for fresh live chat or opinions outside of what is controlled. Hopefully the new site owner will get it back on track.

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Thumbnail of user suckb1
1 review
5 helpful votes
January 2nd, 2023

I have been on the site for 18 months (user name "suckbuddyk") and because of the quality of the site and its management I have chosen to pay annually, even though even a one-time payment is entirely optional. It is worth it to me. From what I can tell, Michael puts in long hours and always works on managing the integrity of the site and the contacts. I wasn't looking for something long-term, but I may have met her!

Tip for consumers:
You get out of the site what you put into the site. Don't expect miracles.

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Thumbnail of user maryp3136
1 review
15 helpful votes
January 12th, 2023

The site could be so good, but its run at the bear minimum.
It's never improved or updated and the one time the admin (yes there is only ONE person running and maintaining this website) tried something simple which was to change the font in the chat room, it ruined the whole site, it had to be taken back to an old version and a weekends worth of messages were lost for everyone. In other words, the ONE person running the site hasn't got a clue what hes doing, yet he has the audacity to charge people $25 for a blue tick like on twitter...which does nothing by the way except point you out as a gullible mark to everyone else.
The admin refuses to listen to suggestions and will straight up ban and delete anyone he doesnt like and has admitted to creating the website in order to harvest pictures of women. Creepy as hell.

It is ok for talking to like minded people but you get what you pay for, in this case a website that is 20 years out of date, an admin who cant and/or wont perform any upgrades or updates but the worst thing is the cliques - the front page chat and the forums are dominated by the same 5-6 bullying women and the same 15 thirsty boomer men who trip over themselves to publicly type out awkward innuendo and cringe flirting while these women string them along. They start the most inane and pointless forum threads and seemingly sit in the chat 24 hours a day, bullying anyone new and taking it in turns to see who can end a sentence with the most exclamation marks and emojis...something thats even more cringe when its 50-60 year olds doing it but the admin refuses to create MORE chat room or at least quarantine the horrible boomers off to their own disgusting section

Tip for consumers:
all you can do is try to ignore the pathetic cliques

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Thumbnail of user pathep
1 review
12 helpful votes
January 1st, 2023

The site is a free site, which makes it so that anyone can join and send messages, which make it having a lot of members, but it seems most just join and leave and never post personals or use the forums, and since it doesn't show the last time someone has accessed the site in their profile you have no idea if they are still active or not when you view their profile, this also lets a lot of scammers, picture collectors and people that just want to do sexting and timewaster types to join the site and send messages, so there is a lot of issues with that. And it reflective in the site forum posts. A lot of the post is about being ghosted or being blocked by other members, both female and male members have posted about this in the site forum quite a bit.

Since this isn't a business there are no terms and conditions or agreements, privacy statements, refund statement, nothing at all spelling out the site responsibilities and duties to it members, something you'll find on all the ANR/ABF sites that are ran like a true business.

No one is verified when they join the site, the only people that get the verified tag are those that make a donation.

As written in a previous post this site isn't a business it's a passion project to meet women since the site owner originally was on another site that was shut down, he started this site to replace the other site, the one thing I found about sites that start as passion project by men usually don't last once the owner passion fades, or they get a S.O.

The other moderators of the site are female site members, so not sure how fairly moderations are done, but it seems a lot of the guys have had issues getting banned if you didn't prescribe to a particular viewpoint or took issue with the way they view some of the women comments in the forums.

The forums are active but it's usually the same people posting. And sometimes the post made are a lot of fantasy scenarios written by fanboys about lactation fantasies.
While I'm still a member of the site, I only use it now to view the comments in the forum. Trying to meet people not so much anymore. Got tired of being hit up by people doing solicitations for wet nurse services, or just the give me money to see me messages.

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Compared to some sites, it doesn't have many members features, just the same as you would find standard on any similar site, so nothing stands out. Doesn't get a lot of updates.

Now if you just like a site where you like to post in the forums a lot and don't want to use a site that have paid memberships, you may like the site, but free doesn't mean you get top features and services and there nothing that makes you stand out from the pack besides the verified tags you get when you make a donation but that's about it.

As far as meeting people, the jury's still out for that one, but by viewing the post in the forums, maybe not so much happy time.

Tip for consumers:
Take it as it is, not topflight but not totally bargain basement either, if you think paying for a membership is not your thing, this will be a better fit, but you'll have to deal with all the issues of a free site.

Thumbnail of user fodmapflapjacks
1 review
7 helpful votes
November 6th, 2023

Do not bother. Any male profile is banned becasue the owner is using it for himself. Spoke to a few girls who have all said he approaches them as soon as they sign up and is very pushy.

Tip for consumers:
Don't join. It's just the same users as fetlife, reddit and kik

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Thumbnail of user jamiek432
1 review
16 helpful votes
January 1st, 2023

(edit!) - I had to come back to make an edit, I need to change this from a 2 star to a 1 star...over the past couple of months this website has turned into a DUMP. The front page has been absolutely taken over by a very nasty clique of old witches and their loyal spineless men. All they do is spend all day farming attention off the thirsty men (who come out with the most cringe responses) and then hating on anyone who isnt part of their clique. They create hypocritical forum posts calling people out for things they themselves do...i HATE what this site has become because of these people and the spineless men who enable them just so they can have some kind of interaction with a female and delude themselves into thinking these people are their friends. This is all bang right in the middle of the front page for some reason, 99% of the site doesnt want to see this when they log in - the other 1% spending all their free time on the main chat to farm attention.
Im bored of the bullying, im bored of the cringe flirting, im bored of the hypocricy, im bored of seeing body parts of fat, old crones with awful tattoos and disgusting skin, im bored of how this little internet community has been completely taken over by these loudmouth morons and is totally enabled by the one admin who cant run this site for toffee

The website is ok, it's the best ABF 'dating' site around and its free - but you get what you pay for (ancient looking site, bugs, creeps and weirdos).

You have the option of spending a very questionable $25 on getting 'verified' by the one admin...which gives you a blue tick after your name, no other website privileges or upgrades. Easy money for the admin since all the idiots on the site think having the tick means something.

It has a chat room for people to talk with each other which sounds great but the problem is it's populated by about the same 15-20 boomers and the boring conversations are all steeped in so much cringe innuendo and fake praise (and hundreds of '!') for each other, its not even worth joining in. Unfortunately this is slapped right on the front page for no reason, so everytime you log in you get to have a laugh at the dire conversations and awful attempts at flirting/being funny.

Overall, its ok but could be made way better with a few easy changes. Unfortunately it seems the one admin has no vision for an improved site and is happy grifting the money for pointless blue ticks.

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Thumbnail of user sams1722
1 review
16 helpful votes
December 5th, 2022

Michael the sites admin bans people if they are men. If you are a user that does anything to even slightly get on one of the female on the sites nerves expect your account to be deleted without notice or explanation. For example I friend requested a female on the site and failed to notice her profile said "not accepting friend requests" so she complained to the admin and he banned me for that. I had months worth of friends and conversations i've had with people on the site gone in an instant for that. Funny how the only other review is almost identical to mine. Don't waste your time and definitely don't give Michael any of your money. The women on this website are not worth it and it really just seems like a playground for Michael to use his admin powers to see all the women's private photos.

Tip for consumers:
Don’t waste your time

Thumbnail of user jessal7
1 review
4 helpful votes
December 17th, 2022

It's a friendly community ran by people who really care and are very involved. Its free unless you choose to donate. Members are screened to upon joining to verify. The admins also listen to the members and try to resolve any issues such as scammers. Its a big community and some do get throug but if found are shown the door. Admins are very informative on inducing lactation with supplements, pumping, etc. Theres an ongoing chat, personal profiles, blogs, fun puzzles to solve, audio chats and more. Its been crucial in my ANR journey.

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Thumbnail of user jasonh1292
5 reviews
20 helpful votes
September 9th, 2022

Where do I even begin? Every once in awhile I will create an account on this site just to peruse the users in my area and if I don't see anyone local I usually just delete the account as I see no point in sticking around if there's no one to meet. I figure no harm in doing that, I'm not bothering anyone. Well the admin (Michael) apparently felt the need to delete my account as a result. I guess he never got to be hall monitor in high school. From my personal experiences on here, a fair number of females on this site are very hostile and angry. I have been nothing but respectful to all women on this site and I was either ignored or met with unwarranted hostility. From the moment you join the site, the forums are overflowing with drama from rabid women foaming at the mouth bashing the men with blanket statements accusing all men on the site of things one or two men have done to them and they decide to take it out on you. Everyone wants to play the victim on here and a fair number of the women want to empower themselves at your expense. If you're even fortunate enough to find someone near you (next to impossible) they will talk to you for a day or two then they ghost you and if you try to carry the conversation further or ask to meet you're suddenly "pushy", "thirsty" and "rapey"... exact words used by some of the judgmental women in the forums. The general vibe of this place is hostile and the women come across as very arrogant and haughty. The only value men have on this site is validating the women's egos with constant compliments and attention after they send you revealing pics until they get bored with you in search of a new male victim and will turn on you. Some of the women on there who I have never even spoken one word to have blocked me for no apparent reason. If you're a male who likes being treated like a doormat and abused, this is the perfect site for you.

Tip for consumers:
I wouldn't personally advise using it.

Thumbnail of user freyal17
1 review
12 helpful votes
January 27th, 2023

(edit - One of the main bullies of the clique (names begins with a J) who often chastises men for asking why women block them without even saying a word - (she will bully anyone who makes a new forum thread about this topic) - has, without ANY irony, just asked a man why he blocked her. You can't make this crap up, im so SICK of the hypocritical, loser old bullies on this trashy website making one rule for them and making everyone else feel uncomfortable so she can feel like she has ANY kind of power in her pathetic, vapid life)

Do you know what? A year ago I would have given this website a glowing review.
And at its most basic it gets the job done - you can search for people close to you and freely send messages and connect.
But this past 6-12 months everything feels different and its down to one reason: a growing clique of bullies who completely dominate the website, throwing their weight around and harassing other members who want nothing to do with their pathetic group. The one and only admin (who does nothing to bring the site into the 21st century - it looks like it was made in 1999) is also part of the bullying group and he has no shame in using his power to commit the will of the clique. Just recently a lady had her account deleted and it was 100% down to bullying and harassment - I hate this is how the site has become now.
It's the same names that come up as the bullies over and over again. You can't miss them because they seemingly spend all their free time on the chat (which is forced on you via the front page) and all they do is the ladies say something obvious and with no substance and the pathetic lapdog men who are desperate to be noticed shower them in compliments and exclamation marks and emojis.
This actually wouldnt annoy me so much - if these people were young adults, but these are all boomer men and women who are 50+ that are cringe as all hell to read their comments and awkward humour and flirting. Also these same old crones love to spam the chat with horrible pictures - so if you like seeing old women feet, or saggy tits, or fat limbs then you will love it, like the group of thirsty old men who throw so much fake praise onto these bullies.

The site is a steaming pile of garbage these days, and its getting worse, especially as the only admin is now part of that clique and continues to grift money off members and then not put it into making the site look like its actually from this century.

Tip for consumers:
block anyone who is a regular in the main chat, they are one or usually ALL of the following: a boomer, a bully, painfully unfunny, can't hold any sort of conversation other than very surface level, hard to stomach innuendo, constantly putting up links to garbage music and worst of all, just massive hypocrites.

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Thumbnail of user deed478
1 review
8 helpful votes
October 26th, 2023

Seriously, what happened to this place?
5 years ago it had a completely different vibe, the feel of a proper community with no toxic or predatory atmosphere.
Today? Well, its a mixture of low IQ predatory men and narcissist matriarchs telling everyone else how to act. A lot of good people who were a big part of the community have left recently, for similar and different reasons.
This huge Exodus is purely down to the current clientele. Almost like the site has become too big. Now its full of disingenuous males looking for an easy fix for being horny and cheap whores who get kicks for throwing their images to the dogs.

As has been pointed out in other reviews, a big problem and breeding ground for this is the chat room on the front page. (the first thing you are forced to look at when you log into the website)...you can come on here anytime of the day and you will see the same selection of names and faces without fail. There are about 2-3 'main' females who seemingly spend all of their miserable life in this chat room and all they do is farm compliments and likes and praise from the same '10-15' pathetic, desperately needy men who will type and say anything, with no shame, if it means they might get to see ONE picture of a pair of boobs...as if there arent infinitely easier ways to do this.
I dont know if im more disgusted by these desperate, cringe men and the stuff they say or the horribly narcissistic (and usually already married) women who lead these losers on. (and to be fair, you can see why they need to farm the compliments...you've never seen such pigs)

If it was up to me:
A) the chat room would be hidden away to its own dark corner of the site where these losers who have nothing better going on in their life can all congregate. At the moment its front and center when you visit the site. Such a bad turn off for new people too.
B) about 50% of the male profiles would be purged, most are there for a cheap thrill, not actually interested in ANR and its so obvious from the way they speak and the contents of their profiles that they are not serious.
C) I would be far harsher to some female profiles, these really loud and mouthy ones who try to run the place, who lead on all these sad, lonely men to make themselves feel better would be purged too. Open an only fans if you so desperately need validation from horny men who wont even think about you once theyve shot their load.
D) I would update the look of the website which has always looked basic as hell. Seriously it looks like its from the late 90s.

There is ONE...yes ONE admin for the whole website. I would feel bad for him since its hard to moderate a huge number of people. But at the same time, why not hire at least one person to help you moderate, keep people safe and get rid of bad actors.

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Thumbnail of user misse44
1 review
6 helpful votes
December 3rd, 2023

This website has become a toxic and dangerous place over the past year.
This is all encouraged by the admin of the site who is an awful man easily manipulated and controlled by a small gang of horrible old crones.

Lots of good people left and the rest have been deleted by the admin on the orders of a small coven of hags and the dumb men under their thrall.
The admin and his little gang of trash are helping to cultivate a particular culture on the website...in the chat room, they are holding things like group video masturbation sessions, constant titillation which whips these dumb men with no self control into a perverted frenzy. Its fine for the witches who do this to farm compliments and attention, but beyond this, they are emboldening these men to treat all other ladies on the site (and probably IRL) with no respect and as objects, a pair of tits and nothing else.
The worst thing is, the admin and these hags have been told what they are doing, people are desperate for the admin to make things right, but he is a part of this group of dumb men under the thrall of the hags so instead, he just deletes anyone bringing up concerns of how the site has fallen deeper and deeper into being a toxic pit of filth for the whores to farm attention.
Im not sure which is more pathetic...the 'women' who know exactly what they're doing or the adult man children being so easily led on by these tarts. Its not even like these women are worth it - below average, overweight, saggy, personality vacuums...these men are just so lonely, so desperate, so thirsty that they will sit in a chat room 24/7 to awkwardly try and flirt with these witches who do nothing but lead them on.

The admin has said he wants to step back and hand the website over, this was months ago now, a few people handed their names in and things looked like they might get better, someone with some brains in charge but now it looks like the admin is deliberately trying to tank his own website, its a shame he has allowed himself to become a pathetic cuck to a handful of trashy whores.

95% of people on the site keep themselves to themselves but like ANY internet community, the loud minority have to go ruin it for everyone else. If you are a pseudo-intellectual who likes to flirt awkwardly via boomer emoji use then you will fit right in with the detestable excuses for humans who spend 24/7 in the main chat

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Thumbnail of user siobhans38
1 review
15 helpful votes
January 21st, 2023

EDIT2: what this joke of a site desperately needs in order to get back to when it was good: the old, white, overweight american women need to step the hell back and stop trying to constantly be in the spotlight - so bored of hearing these cackling crones talk about things only to do the opposite of what they preach the next day. Bunch of horrible hypocrites, spending all their time farming attention off the boomer men in the chat room - honestly go and have a read of their conversations, its pathetic low effort garbage - no wonder most of the chat clique are old and with no real relationship status, who the hell would want to be with these people except other NPCs. No one wants to see your disgusting, old, overweight body parts plastered on the front page everytime they log in, at least quarantine these utter losers to their own chat room deep somewhere within the site, not on the front bloody page. Absolute joke

EDIT: today the admin threatened to delete a user who is being bullied and harassed by the horrible main chat gang for seemingly no reason...what the hell. I can't believe all the drama on this site is created by the OLDEST people on there and the useless admin when you'd expect it to be the younger, less mature ones.
The admins exact words (and bear in mind this was all done publicly in the main chat):
"person being bullied...im waiting...i will check back in 5 mins...i want an explanation and an apology from you...your accoutn will be removed otherwise. Guaranteed. I dont allow anyone to threaten me or my site. Go ahead"
Ok Hitler, calm down. Imaging using your position within the site to threaten and coerce members, handing out ultimatums and (like mentioned in another review here) stealing content from the women of the site before deleting their accounts. Absolutely disgusting, Michael Admin is a spineless little weasel of a man

I am an older lady, wanting to use this website to find friends and a partner but what I have witnessed over the year or so I've been there is disgusting.
You would think a small and niche community like this would come together and lift each other up but what I have seen is the complete opposite. Now, im not talking about the majority of the userbase here but the same 10-20 names that come up over and over again, the same names that dominate the chat, the same names that I have seen pile on and bully certain members who speak their mind or go against the will of the main chat. It makes everyone else not want to engage in the chat or forums because its full of BULLIES.
The worst thing is these bullies are 90% women who recruit the dumbest of the men on the site to follow their orders and join them in the disgusting harassment...these are all people who are 50+...acting like children.
On top of that, the admin of the website seems to just laugh when people point out the harassment and bullying, he laughs and tells them to get over it...what kind of moderation is that? Does he want this site to slip further into being an absolute hell hole of the same narcissistic members bullying and harassing everyone else out of the website?
Eventually its just going to be these same 7 or 8 old, spiteful women who are absolutely past it and their loyal lapdogs consisting of the same 14 or 15 old, spineless men who are what we call 'useful idiots' all engaging in their brand of really hard to stomach flirting and constant innuendo and unfunny 'jokes' and thousands of exclamation marks and emojis, from people supposed to be my age. It's very depressing that these people are acting like this, like children and its even more depressing to see them being hypocrites and engaging in the very things they bully others for. Something needs to be done about them because 90% of the people on that site are good people and are now too scared to even use the forums or chat

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Thumbnail of user michelled2637
1 review
5 helpful votes
March 1st, 2024

This site used to be brilliant with a great vibe, great gang of people who supported each other, joined chats and contributed to threads regularly. After my friend list had dwindled down by more then half as they tried to bring up the toxic nature of the site and talk sense into Michael before either leaving or been kicked off I decided it was time to go myself. I could no longer support this site that had changed so drastically to the site i once joined and loved and made many lovely friends on.

Unfortunately one woman Jessica who appears to have him under her dirty claws has turned this site toxic and very dangerous for women. She absolutely lacks class, pretends to be nice but the undertones and digs she starts, which her lapdogs then make sure to finish off have left this site beyond toxic. These lapdogs are the worst most vile men that no woman would go near in real life and most likely live in their mothers basements and only log on to see the disgusting skin covered with gross tacky tattoos and old granny tits which are plastered all over chat daily. Seen them once you've seen them a thousand times and trust me once is more then enough for any normal person.

There is no fun in the chatroom anymore, no new threads of any substance. I do wonder if Michael regrets losing the long term users who actually positively contributed to the site or is he so blinded by this one woman that hes put his whole site in jeprody. Id love to know what this one woman has that has him so blindsided and only hope he sees the light before she ruins his site and him in the process.

There's also a creepy old man Groggman who befriends all the women pretending to be widowed. He sleazes around all the women and pretends to be the nice retired guy there ready to offer support. Think wolf in sheep's clothing if you will.

Anyhow Rumour has it cowboy buddy is in the process of creating a new site. Maybe this will be the end of the road for abfheaven. Out with the old and in with the new and all that. Let's hope this new site brings some class.

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Don't post pictures. Admin keeps them

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1 review
5 helpful votes
April 15th, 2024

Hate this place </3
The 1 man that owns the website and his little gang can break site rules, push people away from the chat room and generally act in a nasty manner to their hearts content but if anyone else dare to say something, offer an opinion or criticism or step out of line then your account will be deleted with no chance of defending yourself!?!
It's super sad to see a space with actual potential rotting from the inside out cuz of thin skinned, hypocritical management on a power trip and a few 'loud' bullies who have the backing of the management. A handful of women who get their kicks encouraging men to treat us ladies like objects, and a handful of men who act like your classic white knights but I swear they are under eeevery woman's photo on that site in the comment box saying sleazy, shameless things. At times its kinda hard to agree if they are doing it out of malice/mental issues or out of sheer short-sighted ignorance smh -_-

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not safe for women....
not safe for genuine men who actually care...

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1 review
4 helpful votes
February 6th, 2024

I dont use this sight for the community but it used to be fun to jump into chat at times to speak to like minded peeps. Not these days, Theres a handful of awful peeps who are happy to create drama and throw there weight around in chat and bully any1 who doesnt fall in line with there way of thinking.

Unfortunately, the admin has made clear that he is on there side and this vocal minority (mebbe around 10-15 of the same names that spend all there spare time in chat) are not only protected by the admin but allowed to break site rules whenever they want whereas a lot of peeps in the past year have had there accounts deleted and blocked for even daring to bring up these double standards.

These bullies have the power of the admin rite behind them, or they are manipulating him really well
The worst thing about this bully clique is that they dont have the spine to do it straight up, they resort to really passive aggressive means of piling on peeps, kinda like they are doing it behind fake, forced smiles and pretending to the rest of the sight that they are good people but there fake friendliness and passive agressive attempts at bullying peeps is so obvious to the other 99.9% of members. This is why no one wants to go into the chat any more! No one wants to converse with these horrible people who have the most boring and flat conversations anyway that always devolve into the cult leader uploading loads of soft core porn pictures of her breasts to get attention off the drooling idiot men. Honestly some of the most pathetic stuff I ever saw. Men, 40+, slack jawed over pics of breasts like they never ever get to see them in real life - totally believable with this lot of degenerates with all the charisma of vanilla ice cream without the vanilla

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Doesnt feel like a safe place for women. Ironically this is completely thanks to the actions of 2 or 3 women who appear to run the sight behind the scenes

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2 reviews
9 helpful votes
January 2nd, 2023

On ABF Heaven I have found a lot of lovely fellows, male and female ones. I can hardly understand the bad ratings in here as Michael works hard to make the site a save place for any ABF friend. Surely there are strange people sometimes but you will find them everywhere. And yes, the sight might not be the most blingbling one but it is functional, stable, made with love and practical. Besides I don't know any side where you can suppose the owner ideas for the site - and some of them get implemented.

I truly like the site and the people filling it with life & love.
Chuflay

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Be pollite and honest. And take your time. This topic is all about respect and intimacy. :)

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1 review
3 helpful votes
January 4th, 2023

Great spot to meet like minded people. And it's freeeee, free to post free to message. Who the eff can complain about that?
A very active site. Active moderator who has always been cool af.
Have I found
Did I find that perfect ANR partner on ABFHeaven or ANY site? Nooooo

This guy blasting all this hate is lame
Like we've all said on the other sites
Stop hating Get a life dude!

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