Tried to put a review at Fuller but since it was negative they did not post it. The company has gone down hill I bought a wood club hairbrush and the handle is more narrow on the end and harder to hold not like my 30 year brush from them. Also packaging is poor you spend $70 and not even a nice box the way they used to be. Customer Service is terrible they don't even answer the phone goes straight to voice mail. They want you to email for your questions.