I live in Mt Vernon where these "people" reside. Their puppies come straight from local Amish puppy mills. There's a reason they say you can't see the parents of your puppy. It's not impossible like they claim. You can't see the parents because they live with the Amish in conditions that would keep anyone that wasn't a monster up at night. I beg you not to buy a puppy from these horrific people. Even if you would get very lucky and end up with a puppy that wasn't infested with crawling parasites inside and out, inbred, with behavioral problems, and taken away from his/her mom way too early, who by the way, has probably never set foot on grass and lives in a wire cage her whole life. You would still be contributing to the everyday torture of the poor dogs they DON'T let you see. There are lots of doodle/small dog breeders out there that will charge you less for a puppy that doesn't come from garbage like this.