Germination was great, definitely the 80% they say. All plants grew well for 30 days then went to flower. Started some indoor thought it was my fault they went to flower so quick when moved out doors so started more seeds. Same result. No amount of nitrogen could keep them in veg. If you're looking for buds in 60 days that's great, but their genetics must be horrible. Would give 0 stars if it were an option. Buy your seeds somewhere else.