It was a circus trying to get a refund. This guy who is so super rich from all his deals, he wouldn't even consider a 10k refund. I even offered a 5k refund for the help he provided up to that point, NOPE! Makes you think...a man is so rich and so good, he cant even give back to a struggling guy, at that point. And, the worst part is, its not that I didn't want to be in the program, it is that what I was told was different than what I got. STAY AWAY. Oh and he even went as far as quoting scripture to me!