I called Pet Food Expert and they made it clear that Doggiefood went out of business and to get our money back we had to speak with PayPal or the BBB. Seems to me like they have absolutely nothing to do with them and I'm still searching for my money. It makes me mad to think that these employees probably posted on here about this company to save their butts when they are the ones who screwed everyone over. "Post this as many places as you can" - that's clearly not a customer and that's not a way to run a business which they clearly learned the hard way. Glad I only placed a few orders.